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obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero there are security issues still persist, barbara simons is an expert on electronic voting and on the advisor of the election commission and her book is called broken ballots will your votes counties, welcome. >> thank you very much, it is a pleasure. >> you have been involved in computer science most of your adult left. >> i have a ph.d. >> rose: yes. that qualifies you. how did you get invved in this, though, the technology of voting? >> well, in 2003, a colleague of mine, david dill, a professor at stanford discovered that silicon centrally, santa clara county was about to buy voting machines to be used there and
obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero...
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who would you choose to play barack obama? you can tell me on twitter. go to @lynnberry or head to facebook.com. that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now to wall street. the dow closinged at 13,575 after gaining 80 points yesterday. the s&p was up 10. the nasdaq add 14. taking a look at overseas trading this morning. in tokyo, the nikkei inched up 38 points. the hang seng climbed 104. the s&p is on the cusp of a five-year high. barring any surprises from september's job reports, it could hit that high today. experts predict about 115,000 jobs were added last month. weekly claims ticked slightly higher yesterday. >>> on thursday, coal companies rallied after republican mitt romney gave coal a shoutout during wednesday night's presidential debate. >>> troubling data paints a bleak picture of market confidence. according to one trade group, investors have pulled some $138 billion of investments in stocks since 2009 while funneling $1 trillion into less risky bonds. overseas today, samsung reported record quarterly profit. facebook is cel
who would you choose to play barack obama? you can tell me on twitter. go to @lynnberry or head to facebook.com. that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now to wall street. the dow closinged at 13,575 after gaining 80 points yesterday. the s&p was up 10. the nasdaq add 14. taking a look at overseas trading this morning. in tokyo, the nikkei inched up 38 points. the hang seng climbed 104. the s&p is on the cusp of a five-year high. barring any surprises from...
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. >>> after the break, president obama gets his game face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the obama campaign voted on how to portray the republican nominee? we will return to the paradox of the mittens when obama's super pac chief bill burton joins the package, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them
. >>> after the break, president obama gets his game face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the...
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at the same time the obama campaign raised a record $150 million in september. so let me give you the checkbook, joe. do you spend that kind of money on ads? do you beef up your ground game? what do you do with that cash? >> i think both. i think what ads allow you to do is they allow you to microtarget. tough target carefully the people who are not yet decided or the people who might at the last minute change their mind. and certainly some of the folks that might change their mind are people who are soft democrats but aren't working right now or who are displeased with the economy, with the direction in which the country is headed. so you want to spend that money to get to them to reach them with a positive message and to get them to be solid on your hand. >> jamal, are you worried about the debate? do you think the president has more ground to make up and that might influence how they spend their money? >> the president certainly has ground to make up. it wasn't the greatest debate performance anyone has ever seen, and i think he's going to have to do better i
at the same time the obama campaign raised a record $150 million in september. so let me give you the checkbook, joe. do you spend that kind of money on ads? do you beef up your ground game? what do you do with that cash? >> i think both. i think what ads allow you to do is they allow you to microtarget. tough target carefully the people who are not yet decided or the people who might at the last minute change their mind. and certainly some of the folks that might change their mind are...
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take the wind out of your sails for the work you're doing for the president to get re-elected. >> i'll tell you what, it's really hard to argue against somebody who shows up with totally new proposals that says, oh, he loves teachers and last week he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who has totally different plans than he really has said in the past. >> does this mean the president has fulfilled his promise to get unemployment below 8% and this isn't a one-term proposition? >> you know, you can't deny the numbers. 7.8% is, in fact, lower than 8%, and that's kind of the benchmark that the republicans have laid out. i'm sure they are extremely
take the wind out of your sails for the work you're doing for the president to get re-elected. >> i'll tell you what, it's really hard to argue against somebody who shows up with totally new proposals that says, oh, he loves teachers and last week he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that...
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however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their fair share, and that's something that i guess all of the sudden now romney and ryan, they don't quite
however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign....
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obama is now in a position to nail jello to the wall. you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic for him, particularly given his record and particularly given the republican base. going forward, doesn't he have the burden to defend what he did the other night? >> he does. i assume what is going on here is romney said, look, with the hard right thing, we are down in the key states. we're down overall. this isn't working. well, let's bring back that etch-a-sketch campaign. will americans believe suddenly this man that's been saying one thing for the last year or two is now believed something entir
obama is now in a position to nail jello to the wall. you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having...
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i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney, and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. you know that old saying if you stand for nothing, you won't stand for anything? well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't really have any values or principles that he really believes in except he really wants to be president. that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campai
i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney, and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the...
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. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a dramatic drop of the unemployment rate from 8.1% to 7.8%, the first time it has fallen below 8% since the president took office. so how do we get there? the economy added 114,000 jobs last month but in addition the labor department revised july and august numbers to show that 86,000 more jobs were added than previously thought. total unemployment rose by 873,000 jobs last month. that's the biggest one-month increase in nearly 30 years. and today's report snapped a string of 43 straight months of unemployment over 8%. now there's just one more report, jobs report out before the election. mark zandi is the chief economist for mo
. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a...
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i tell you, after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through, you know, we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality. so this broke through. everybody was talking. but not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that performance is widely watched as it was and as strong as it was is actually going to move numbers. we've yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some and i think that on the other hand did governor romney win the day yesterday in the news cycle given how strong he was thursday night? he didn't decisively win it. he did one event late in the day. he did one event late in the day. look at the evening newscast, the morning papers. >> he doesn't have to win every day. >> i think he has to win most days. he lost about two months of days. i think he's got to win a
i tell you, after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through, you know, we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality. so this broke through. everybody was talking. but not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the...